Veggies and Side Dishes

 Sweetie Corn Casserole
8oz Jiffy corn muffin mix
15oz Whole kernel corn (drained)
15oz Creamed corn (partially drained)
1 c sour cream
1/2 c butter, melted
2 Tbsp Van Roehling Texas Jalapeno Sweeties
Preheat oven to 350 degrees. In a bowl, mix all ingredients together and
pour into a greased 8x8 baking pan.  Cook uncovered for 45-50 minutes
or until lightly browned.
Spicy Grilled Corn
1 cup heavy cream
1 ½ tablespoons Van Roehling Like It Hot Seasoning™
4 ears corn, shucked
2 limes
1 cup grated Queso Fresco
4 tablespoons chives, finely chopped
Grill halved limes along with corn. Douse grilled corn with juice of grilled limes.
In a small saucepan, heat cream until it reduces slightly and sticks to the spoon.
  Stir in seasoning and then pour over grilled corn.  Top with cheese and chives.
Potato Salad
5 pounds Yukon Gold potatoes or similar
2 cups mayonnaise
1 cup Van Roehling Texas Jalapeno Sweeties, chopped™
2 tablespoons yellow mustard
1 tablespoon apple cider vinegar
1 teaspoon Van Roehling Yard Bird Seasoning™
4-5 hardboiled eggs, peeled and chopped
3 celery stalks, diced
1/2 cup sweet onion, diced
1 tablespoon fresh chopped dill
Cut the potatoes into quarters and place them in a large stock pot. Fill the pot
with cold water until it is 1 inch over the top of the potatoes. Set the pot
over high heat and bring to a boil. Once boiling, add 1 tablespoon salt
and cook the potatoes for 13-15 minutes, until fork tender. Meanwhile, in
a medium bowl mix the mayonnaise, Sweeties, mustard, apple cider vinegar,
and seasoning. Stir until smooth. In a separate bowl, mix the chopped eggs,
celery, onions, and dill.  Once the potatoes are very tender, drain off all the
water. Remove the loose peels and chop the potatoes into 1/2-inch chunks.
Place the potatoes in a large bowl. Gently mix in the dressing until it
coats the potatoes well. Then stir in the eggs, celery, onions, and dill.
Garnish with fresh dill and paprika.
Pea Salad
1 can green peas, drained
2 Tbsp mayonnaise
2-3 hard boiled eggs, chopped
American cheese, chopped or shredded
2-3 tsp Van Roehling Sweet Piggy Pork Rub
Mix well and chill for at least 30 minutes before serving.

 

The Best Garlic Biscuits
2 cups all-purpose flour
1 tablespoon baking powder
1 tablespoon sugar
1 tablespoon + 3/4 teaspoon
Van Roehling OMGarlic Seasoning™
1-1/2 sticks (3/4 cup) butter, (divided)
1 cup whole milk
8 oz shredded cheddar cheese
Preheat oven to 450F. Line a baking sheet with parchment paper. Melt 1 stick butter in a bowl and set aside. In a large mixing bowl, combine flour, baking powder, sugar, and seasoning. Add melted butter and milk and whisk until flour is all wet. Fold in cheese with a spoon. Drop heaping spoonfuls onto a baking sheet. Bake for 10-12 minutes, until golden brown. Meanwhile, melt remaining 1/2 stick butter in small mixing bowl and stir in 3/4 teaspoon OMGarlic seasoning. When you remove biscuits from oven brush them with OMGarlic butter. 

 

 Baked French Fries
1 large baked potato
1 Tbsp Oil
3 Tbsp Van Roehling Campfire Dust
Preheat oven to 450.  Cut potato into cubes.  Mix oil and Campfire Dust seasoning together.  Coat potatoes with mixture and place on baking sheet.  Bake for 30 minutes.  Serves 1
Grilled Potato Salad
2# med red potatoes, pierced with fork
1 med onion, cut into 1/2" slices
1 large red bell pepper, quartered
2 ribs celery
3 Tbsp oil
3/4 c mayonnaise
2 tsp. Van Roehling Sizzlin' Oak Steak Seasoning
Microwave potatoes for 7 min, turning halfway through. Grill potatoes and vegetables over medium heat 10 - 15 min., turning occasionally and brushing with oil.  Cool and coarsely chop.  Mix mayonnaise and seasoning in large bowl.  Add potatoes and vegetables; toss and coat.  Sprinkle with additional seasoning if needed. Serve at room temperature.

 

Baked Beans

3 (28oz) cans of pork and beans
1c. packed brown sugar
3/4 c. Van Roehling Daddy's German Sauce
5 strips cooked bacon, crumbled
Combine all ingredients and place in greased 3 Qt. baking dish.  Bake at 300 for 2 hours.
Boursin Cheese
This makes 3 cups so you might want to divide in half.
2Tbsp Van Roehling OMGarlic Seasoning
8 oz. Butter, at room temperature
16 oz. cream cheese, softened
3 Tbsp grated Parmesan (the real stuff, freshly ground)
1 Tbsp. fresh dill, minced
2 Tbsp. fresh parsley, minced
Add all ingredients to a blender or food processor and process until well blended.
Spoon into a serving bowl and chill overnight.  Serve at room temperature.
 Grilled Corn
Ears of corn
Butter
Van Roehling Sweet Piggy Seasoning and Rub™ to taste
Heat the grill to medium. Pull the outer husks down the ear to the base. Strip away the silk from each ear of corn by hand. Fold husks back into place and place the ears of corn in a large bowl of cold water with 1 tablespoon of salt for 10 minutes. Remove corn from water and shake off excess. Place the corn on the grill, close the cover and grill for 15 to 20 minutes, turning every 5 minutes, or until kernels are tender. Spread butter over the corn while hot and sprinkle with Sweet Piggy Seasoning.

  

Grilled Zucchini
4 zucchinis
3 tablespoons olive oil
Zest and juice of 1 lemon
Van Roehling Sizzlin' Oak Seasoning™ to taste (1-2 tablespoons)
Cut zucchinis into spears and place in a Ziploc bag along with remaining ingredients. Toss to coat. You can allow this to marinate or transfer right to the grill. Prepare the grill to medium to medium-low heat. Grill the zucchini on all three sides until nice and tender, being careful not to burn them. Remove the zucchini to a plate as it gets done. For an added bonus, you can top with grated cheese if you choose or they delicious as is!

 

 7 Layer Dip
Ms. Cindy is asked to bring this every year to Super Bowl, you will see why!  
This layer dip is simple, no cooking, less than 10 minutes prep and it's ready! 
You can also make it as large or small as you'd like, just increase or decrease
how much you add to each layer!
Bottom layer:  refried beans 2nd layer: Sour Cream 3rd layer:  Van Roehling
Tequila Green Salsa™ or Texas Red Salsa 4th layer:  shredded lettuce
5th layer:  shredded cheddar cheese 6th layer:  chopped tomatoes
7th layer:  chopped green onions    
Van's Smokey Green Bean Casserole
1 can condensed cream of mushroom soup
1/4 cup milk
1 teaspoon Van Roehling Campfire Dust™
2 (14 1/2 ounce) cans cut green beans, drained
1 1/3 cups French-fried onions
Combine soup, milk and Van Roehling Campfire Dust™ in a 1 1/2 qt baking dish;
stir until blended. Stir in beans and 2/3 cup fried onions. Bake at 350°F for
30 minutes or until hot. Stir. Sprinkle with remaining 2/3 cup fried onions. Bake
5 more minutes or until onions are golden.    
   
Potatoes Deluxe 
2 lb bag frozen diced (cubed) potatoes
1 can cream of chicken soup
½ cup butter, melted
Van Roehling Sizzlin' Oak Seasoning™
1 cup diced onion
1 lb sour cream
8 oz sharp cheddar cheese, shredded
1 cup crushed potato chips
Thaw diced potatoes for 30 minutes (in LARGE mixing bowl).  After the 30 minutes,
make sure all diced potatoes are separated. Mix in remaining ingredients except
potato chips.  Put in 9 x 13 pan and bake for 30 minutes at 375 degrees. Take
pan out and cover top with crushed potato chips.  Bake for another 30 minutes.  
 Cheesy Potatoes Au Gratin
4 russet potatoes, sliced into 1/4-inch slices
1 onion, sliced into rings
Van Roehling OMGarlic Seasoning™ (1-2 tablespoons)
3 tablespoons butter
3 tablespoons all-purpose flour
2 cups milk
1 1/2 cups shredded Cheddar cheese
Preheat oven to 400 degrees F.  Butter a 1-quart casserole dish. Layer 1/2 of
the potatoes into bottom of the prepared casserole dish. Top with the onion
slices and add the remaining potatoes. Season generously with Van
Roehling OMGarlic Seasoning™. In a medium-size saucepan, melt butter
over medium heat. Mix in the flour and stir constantly with a whisk for one
minute. Stir in milk. Cook until mixture has thickened. Stir in cheese all at once,
and continue stirring until melted, about 30 to 60 seconds. Pour cheese over
the potatoes and cover the dish with aluminum foil.  Bake 1 1/2 hours in the
preheated oven.
 
 Van's Creamy Cornbread Casserole
1/2 cup butter, melted
2 eggs, beaten
1 ½ tablespoons Van Roehling Sweet Piggy Seasoning™
1 (8.5 ounce) package dry corn bread mix
1 (15 ounce) can whole kernel corn, drained
1 (14.75 ounce) can creamed corn
1 cup sour cream
Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C), and lightly grease a 9x9 inch
baking dish.  In a medium bowl, combine butter, eggs, Van Roehling Sweet
Piggy Seasoning™, corn bread mix, whole and creamed corn and sour cream.
Spoon mixture into prepared dish. Bake for 45 minutes in the preheated oven,
or until the top is golden brown.  **For extra flavor, add a spoonful of
chopped Van Roehling Texas Jalapeno Sweeties™!     
Creamy Hash brown Casserole
1 10 3/4 - ounce can reduced-fat and reduced-sodium condensed cream of chicken soup
1 8 - ounce carton light sour cream
1/2 30 - ounce package (about 4 cups) frozen shredded hash brown potatoes
1 cup diced cooked ham
4 ounces shredded cheddar cheese
1/4 cup chopped onion
2 teaspoons Van Roehling OMGarlic Seasoning™
1 cup cornflakes
3 tablespoons butter, melted
Preheat oven to 350 degrees F. In a large bowl, combine soup and sour cream.
Stir in frozen potatoes, ham, cheese, onion, and seasoning. Transfer mixture
to an ungreased 2-quart square baking dish. In a small bowl, combine
cornflakes and melted butter. Sprinkle over potato mixture. Bake, uncovered,
for 50 to 55 minutes or until bubbly. Let stand for 10 minutes before serving.

 Guilt-Free Fettuccine Alfredo
2 tablespoons Van Roehling OMGarlic seasoning
8 oz Fettuccine pasta
1 cup chicken stock
1 cup half and half or low-fat cream
½ cup grated parmesan
In a small saucepan, combine Van Roehling OMGarlic seasoning and
chicken stock and heat over medium heat. Simmer until reduced by half. Add
half and half and simmer until thick. Add parmesan cheese and blend until
smooth. Add pepper to taste, toss with cooked fettuccine noodles and
serve. *To make a complete meal, top with grilled chicken or shrimp!  
Deceptively Delicious Green Beans
1 oz pine nuts
1 ½ lbs. green beans
2 tablespoons lemon juice
1-2 tablespoons Van Roehling OMGarlic, depending on taste
Preheat oven to 375F. Toast pine nuts in a shallow baking pan in oven
3-5 minutes, shaking pan frequently. Place green beans in a steamer basket
over boiling water. Cover saucepan and steam 7-8 minutes or until tender.
Transfer green beans to a serving bowl, sprinkle with lemon juice, pine nuts
and Van Roehling OMGarlic to taste and toss.
Stuffed Peppers
4 bell peppers (red, yellow or a mix), halved lengthwise, seeds removed
1 tablespoon extra-virgin olive oil
About 3 cups tomato sauce
2-3 tablespoons Van Roehling Cheezy Italian (depending on personal preference)
1 cup cooked ground beef or turkey
1/2 cup couscous
3/4 cup grated asiago cheese
3 teaspoons red wine vinegar
1/2 cup chopped fresh parsley
Preheat the oven to 450 degrees F. Toss the bell pepper halves with 1 tablespoon
olive oil and 1/2 teaspoon salt in a large microwave-safe bowl. Cover and
microwave until the peppers soften, 5 to 7 minutes. Meanwhile, mix the tomato
sauce and Van Roehling Cheezy Italian. Take 2 cups of the tomato sauce mixture
and add ground beef, couscous, 1/2 cup cheese, vinegar, and the parsley in a
bowl. Put the remaining 1 cup of tomato sauce mixture in the bottom of a large
baking dish. Carefully transfer the peppers, cut side up, to the baking dish
and fill with the couscous mixture. Sprinkle with the remaining 1/4 cup cheese.
Cover the dish with foil and bake until the peppers are tender, and
the filling is hot, about 20 minutes.  
Low-Carb Fried Rice
**It's made with cauliflower!
2 cups frozen peas
1/2 cup water
1/4 cup sesame oil, divided
4 cups cubed pork loin
6 green onions, sliced
1 large carrot, cubed
2 tablespoons Van Roehling OMGarlic seasoning
20 ounces shredded cauliflower
6 tablespoons soy sauce
2 eggs, beaten
Stir peas and water together in a saucepan; bring to a boil, reduce heat to
medium-low, and cook and stir until peas are tender and heated through,
about 5 minutes. Drain and discard water. Heat 2 tablespoons sesame
oil in a wok over medium-high heat. Cook and stir pork in hot oil until
lightly browned on all sides and cooked through, 7 to 10 minutes. Transfer
meat to a plate. Heat remaining 2 tablespoons sesame oil the wok. Sauté
green onions, carrot, and Van Roehling OMGarlic seasoning in hot oil
until vegetables are softened, about 5 minutes. Add cauliflower; cook and
stir until cauliflower had a tender but firm to the bite, 4 to 5 minutes. Stir
pork and soy sauce into cauliflower mixture and stir-fry until mixture is hot
and slightly browned, 3 to 5 minutes. Move pork-cauliflower mixture to one
side of the wok; pour beaten eggs onto empty side. Scramble eggs until
cooked through, 3 to 5 minutes; stir cooked eggs into the pork-cauliflower
mixture, breaking up any large chunks.

 

 Beef Cabbage Rolls
2 teaspoons sesame oil
2 teaspoons Van Roehling OMGarlic seasoning
2 tablespoons minced red onion
1 pound 90% lean ground beef
2 Tablespoon Van Roehling Sweet Chipotle Glaze and Grilling Sauce,
plus about 1/3 cup for drizzling
1/2 cup cooked brown rice
6-8 cabbage leaves
Heat up the sesame oil in a medium sized skillet over medium heat. Add the
onion, and sauté for about 3-4 minutes. Add the Van Roehling OMGarlic and
ground beef and cook through. Drain any excess liquid and return to stove.
Reduce heat to low and add the Van Roehling Sweet Chipotle Glaze and
Grilling Sauce, and brown rice. Toss to thoroughly mix. Remain on low.
Heat a large pot of water until boiling. Add the cabbage leaves 2-3 at a
time for 2-3 minutes. Remove and fully submerge in iced cold water. Pat Dry.
Spoon in the beef mix and drizzle with Van Roehling Sweet Chipotle
Glaze and Grilling Sauce.   
Cheezy Broccoli Casserole
8 cups chopped fresh broccoli
1 cup finely chopped onion
3/4 cup butter, cubed
12 eggs
2 cups heavy whipping cream
2 cups (8 ounces) shredded cheddar cheese, divided
1 ½ tablespoons Van Roehling Cheezy Italian Seasoning
In a large skillet over medium heat, sauté broccoli and onion in butter
until crisp-tender; set aside. In a large bowl, whisk the eggs, cream and
1-3/4 cups of the cheese. Stir in the broccoli mixture, and Van Roehling
Cheezy Italian Seasoning. Pour into a greased 3-qt. baking dish; set in a
large pan filled with 1 in. of hot water. Bake, uncovered, at 350° for 45-50
minutes or until a knife inserted near the center comes out clean. Sprinkle
with remaining cheese. Let stand for 10 minutes before serving.
 Roasted Brussel Sprouts
1 1/2 pounds Brussels sprouts, ends trimmed and yellow leaves removed
3 tablespoons olive oil
1 tablespoons Van Roehling Campfire Dust seasoning
Preheat oven to 400 degrees F. Place trimmed Brussels sprouts, olive oil,
and Van Roehling Campfire Dust seasoning in a large resealable plastic bag.
Seal tightly and shake to coat. Pour onto a baking sheet, and place on center
oven rack. Roast in the preheated oven for 30 to 45 minutes, shaking pan
every 5 to 7 minutes for even browning. Reduce heat when necessary to
prevent burning. Brussels sprouts should be very dark brown when done.  
Creamy Onion & Chive Hash Brown Potatoes
1-1/2 cups half-and-half cream
1 container (8 ounces) spreadable chive and onion cream cheese
2 tablespoons dried minced onion
1 ½ tablespoons Van Roehling Yard Bird Seasoning
2 packages (20 ounces each) refrigerated shredded hash brown potatoes
2 cups shredded Swiss cheese
3 tablespoons minced fresh chives, divided
2 tablespoons butter, cubed
Preheat oven to 375°. In a Dutch oven, combine the first four ingredients;
cook and stir over medium heat until blended. Stir in potatoes. In a greased
13x9-in. or 3-qt. baking dish, layer a third of the hash brown mixture and
2/3 cup Swiss cheese; sprinkle with 1 tablespoon chives. Repeat layers.
Top with remaining hash brown mixture and cheese; dot with butter. Bake,
covered, 35 minutes. Bake, uncovered, 10-20 minutes longer or until edges
begin to brown and potatoes are heated through. Let stand 10 minutes
before serving. Sprinkle with remaining chives.
 Hungarian/Italian Mashed Potatoes
5lb potatoes
1 Tbsp. butter, heaping
3 Tbsp. sour cream, heaping
1/4 c. olive oil
2 Tbsp. Van Roehling Cheezy Italian Seasoning, heaping
Salt & pepper to taste
Peel, cut and cook potatoes in large saucepan, until soft. Drain off water.  
To potatoes in saucepan, add butter and sour cream.  Stir well and mash
together until blended. Add oil and Van Roehling Cheezy Italian seasoning
and mix well.  Salt and pepper to taste if desired.  Let sit for 15 min.
covered in the pot before serving. Submitted by Susan J., Houston, TX  
Glazed Carrots
1 serving carrots
1/4 c. chicken broth
2 Tbsp. butter
2 Tbsp. Van Roehling Jalapeno Red Plum Glaze
Add butter to skillet and melt.  Add broth and carrots, cook for 4-5 min.,
then add Van Roehling Jalapeno Red Plum Glaze. Cook until done,
stirring constantly to glaze. Submitted by Alan W, Tomball, TX

 

Sweet Onion Potatoes
1 baking potato
½ tsp. olive oil
1 slice onion
Van Roehling Sweet Piggy Pork Rub
Rub potato with olive oil.  Sprinkle generously with Van Roehling Sweet
Piggy Pork rub.  Place on sheet of foil.  Place onion slice on top of potato.  
Close up foil and bake for 1 hour on 400. Submitted by Brenda L.,
League City, TX Texas
Sweeties Coleslaw
1/2 c. mayo 
1/2 tsp. celery seeds
2 Tbsp. chopped Van Roehling Texas Jalapeno Sweeties
3 c. finely shredded green cabbage
1 c. finely shredded purple cabbage
1 c. finely shredded carrots
Mix mayo, celery seeds, and Van Roehling Texas Jalapeno Sweeties.
Toss with cabbage and carrots.  Cover and chill before serving (may
add additional Texas Jalapeno Sweeties to mixture for more kick)
Roasted Root Vegetables Van Roehling
1 Butternut Squash
2 Sweet Potatoes
1 Lg. Onion
3 Carrots
1/4c. Van Roehling Jalapeno Red Plum Sauce
3 Tbs. Olive Oil
Salt & Pepper
Peel all vegetables and cut into 1" squares.  On a large sheet pan, place
all vegetables and coat with olive oil, then salt and pepper to taste. Bake
at 400 for 20-25 minutes.  Remove from oven and apply Van Roehling
Jalapeno Red Plum Sauce, coating vegetables and place back in oven
for 10 min. Submitted by: Lucy H. - San Antonio, TX

 

BMT Tomato Bites
12 Cherry or Campari Tomatoes
3 oz. Shredded Cheddar Cheese
1/4 c. Chopped Green Onion
5 Tbs. Mayonnaise
4 Tbs. Bacon, crisply fried & crumbled
1 tsp. Van Roehling Sizzlin' Oak Steak Rub
Mix all ingredients except tomatoes. Slice top off tomatoes and scoop out pulp.
 Allow to drain on paper towel briefly. Fill each tomato with remaining ingredient
mixture. Chill & serve.  
 Spinach Lasagna
2pkgs. frozen chopped spinach
8 oz. lasagna noodles
1 sm. container ricotta cheese
1 large jar alfredo sauce
2 green onions
2 eggs
1 1/2c mozzarella cheese
3 t. Van Roehling Cheezy Italian Seasoning
3 t. Van Roehling OMGarlic Seasoning
Thaw spinach.  Preheat the oven to 375F. Bring water to boil in a saucepan.
Cook lasagna noodles as directed on package.  Grease an 8x8 baking pan.
Chop the green onions.  In a large bowl, lightly beat the eggs.  Add the spinach,
ricotta cheese, onions, and the Van Roehling Cheezy Italian & OMGarlic
Seasonings.  Drain the pasta well.  Layer half the noodles in the bottom of the
baking pan.  Top with half the ricotta cheese mixture, half the alfredo sauce,
and half the mozzarella cheese.  Repeat with a second layer of each.  
Bake the lasagna until it is hot and bubbly, about 25 minutes.

 

 Grilled Sweet Potato Fries
4 Sweet potatoes, cut into sticks
¼ c light olive oil
½ c Van Roehling Jalapeno Red Plum Glaze Sauce
Place sweet potato sticks in microwaveable bowl for 10 min. on high. Remove
and place on cookie sheet. Add oil and toss to cover.  Preheat grill to 375º. Place
sticks on grid, sprayed with non-stick cooking spray. Grill, covered for 5-7 min.  
During the last 2 min. brush with Glaze sauce. Serves 8  
Party Pizza
1 pkg pepperoni slices, diced
1 sm can ripe olives, drained and sliced
½ c Mozzarella cheese
2 T flour
1 egg
3 T. Van Roehling Cheezy Italian seasoning
2 pkgs. Refrigerated French bread dough
Marinara sauce (optional)
Preheat oven to 375º.  Combine pepperoni, olives, cheese, and mix well.
Place bread dough seam side up on cutting board.  Using a bread knife,
slice each loaf lengthwise, end to end, cutting only halfway through to center
of loaf. Spread dough open and flat.  Sprinkle lightly with additional flour and roll
out with rolling pin, crosswise to a 4” width, creating a well in each loaf.  
Spoon half of the pepperoni mixture down the center of each loaf.  Gather
edges over filling and pinch closed.  Place dough on cookie sheet, crossing
in a figure 8 pattern. Separate egg beat egg white with Van Roehling Cheezy
Italian seasoning, brush over dough. Using bread knife, cut 3” slits in top
section of the figure 8 to reveal filling.  Bake 30-35 minutes.  Serves with marinara sauce
 Grilled Avocado
1 Lg Avocado
¼ c Van Roehling Jalapeno Red Plum Glaze Sauce
1 T Van Roehling Sweet Piggy Pork Rub
Halve and seed avocado.  Scoop entire halves out of skin.  Sprinkle
with Sweet Piggy Pork rub.  Place on preheated 375º grill, sprayed
with non-stick cooking spray. Grill until slightly browned.  Brush with
glaze sauce, turn, and repeat.    
Broccoli & Cheese Potato
1(10oz) pkg. frozen broccoli in cheese sauce   
2 large baking potatoes
3 tsp. Van Roehling Sizzlin' Oak Steak Rub
Microwave broccoli according to package directions.  Scrub potatoes;
prick with fork, place on microwave safe dish.  Cook on high 10-13 minutes,
turning once.  Let stand 2 minutes.  Cut X in top of each potato, fluff pulp
with fork.  Sprinkle each with Van Roehling Sizzlin' Oak Steak Rub.  Spoon
broccoli cheese mix over top.  Serve.  May add more cheese to broccoli if desired.  

 

Rustic Potatoes
4 Baking potatoes, well-scrubbed, but not dried
Van Roehling Campfire Dust Seasoning
2 T. butter
Prick the potatoes with a fork.   Rub each with butter and sprinkle with
Van Roehling Campfire Dust Seasoning.  Wrap them individually in foil.  
Place in a 4-6Qt. slow cooker, cover and cook on low for 6-8 hours, until soft.